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Whois:

Felix Golz ([email protected])

Hirtenstr

Hamburg

Hamburg,20095

DE

Tel. +494.123456789

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Guppy+++guppysurf.com++guppy-mails.com++great2search.com++get-unlimited.com sagt:

hi

Guppy+++guppysurf.com++guppy-mails.com++great2search.com++get-unlimited.com sagt:

I am interested to invest in your program but I have some questions first

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

hi

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

what questions ?

Oh happy day sagt:

is it correct that you are from germany ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

yes

Oh happy day sagt:

than we can talk in german

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but adress false

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i can't give my adrees cos my surf ponzi you must know it

Oh happy day sagt:

so you do not invest the members money ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

all surf with more than 3% are ponzi

Oh happy day sagt:

you rely only on fresh money ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

how i can make 22% dauly ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

*daily

Oh happy day sagt:

how long do you think will the program last ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i work like 12dp

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

already 5 days and will be online min 5 days

Oh happy day sagt:

so only a short time

Oh happy day sagt:

this is a honest question

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

if i will get good promotion than i will stay online for long time

Oh happy day sagt:

btw why is there no impressum on your site ?

Oh happy day sagt:

you know it is needed in germany

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

sorry for disconect

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

profit 10% for 5 days and its for stable... many programs give 30-50% for 5 days... they will really short time

Oh happy day sagt:

no problem

Oh happy day sagt:

I can't find an impressum on your site, why ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

you want buy Banner imP?

Oh happy day sagt:

no, I asked you, why there is no impressum on your site after this is needed in germany

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

what is impressum ?

Oh happy day sagt:

well as a german you should know what this is, in english we call them imprint

Oh happy day sagt:

it is an info about your address, company and so on

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

noone will put this on ponzi site

Oh happy day sagt:

well you will get problems with the law here in germany

Oh happy day sagt:

btw if you fail with your program you get problems, we call them Anlagebetrug" and you get for this not under 3 years jail

Oh happy day sagt:

this contains also your faked whois info btw

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i can't put my real info

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

you must know this Becouse bad members can come to my home

Oh happy day sagt:

this is nothing what you can hide, if people file legal action against you, you host will not hide your real identity

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

my host don't know my real identity

Oh happy day sagt:

oh you believe you are anonym in the net

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

no

Oh happy day sagt:

well why than hide things they are needed via german law

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

when ponzi site closed some members can kill you

Oh happy day sagt:

well if you do no mistakes and you run a site with income streams not based on members money you will have no problems but it is really poor to take the members money and run after the thing crashed

Oh happy day sagt:

nothing other will happen with the site

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i know this... but i don't know how to make 22% daily

and i want stay online as long as i will can... i will not run away with tons of maney... i will close my site only when money will end and i will can't pay to my members

Oh happy day sagt:

where is written, that a site must pay so high returns ? The webmasters they believe that destroy this industry

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

HYIP indastry work how many yeasrs?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

~all who invest to hight % site know that it is ponzi

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

all who want stablility invest yo site with 1-2% daily

Oh happy day sagt:

well I wonder why people are so stupid to invest in this sites

Oh happy day sagt:

I asked you this only to get some infos for forums, sorry

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

at MMG i write that my site ponzi

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

if someone ask me i tell it i don't tell like some webmasters that they make this %

Oh happy day sagt:

at least this is honest but I don't understand why people run such sites instead of sites they can last for years with 1 or 2% max

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

members don't invest to sites with 1-2% now

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

they like fast money

Oh happy day sagt:

well exactly in this sites people do invest due to they know thay this is realistic

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

do you rememer GCI-SURF ?

Oh happy day sagt:

after the 12dp desaster, not this much people are longer this naiv

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

2% daily

Oh happy day sagt:

well gci was planned as scam from day 1

Oh happy day sagt:

Sasho paid his members only to get a lot of confidence from the members and nothing more but it was planned as scam

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

many AS come and go daily... some time ago was possible to make ~3000-5000$ at PTR sites if you was a promoter

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i know... Sasho great scamer

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

now you can make ~2-3$ monthly at PTR

Oh happy day sagt:

if you compare this with gci, than each ponzi is a scam due to sooner or later the system will crash

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

yes

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but if admin host he will try stay online longer like 12dp

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

StormPay - scam and 12dp close

Oh happy day sagt:

I wonder if these admins of the ponzi scams can sleep well when they know they are a scam sooner or later

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

many moneymakers know it and invest here

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

and they don't work with 1-6% sites

Oh happy day sagt:

well I think only stupid people invest in this sites in the future

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

no

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

many moneymakers will work with this sites

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

like now with HYIP Games

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

many AS member work with 120-150% daily HYIPs

Oh happy day sagt:

in my eyes this is really poor to run such a site, if I would have no clue to run a business honest and to know how to gain profits to pay the members without their money I would let my fingers away

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

Do you remember EstrixSurf ?

Oh happy day sagt:

you should write on you mainsite that the site is a ponzi than some people wouldn't waste their time with it

Oh happy day sagt:

yes I remember

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

You are right... i will write at index page that my site ponzi...

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

or at terms

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

and will put BOLD link at index

Oh happy day sagt:

this is nothing for sarcasm after so many people lost thousends of dollar with the ###### 12dp

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but many peoples earn thousends of dollars with 12dp

Oh happy day sagt:

they do not longer earn with it after this site is game over

Oh happy day sagt:

I am really glad that it has been gone, the biggest scam

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but after 12dp crash many investors start play HYIP games and don't work with AS more

Oh happy day sagt:

well after the scam is gone, the most people start with real investments like forex and so on, hyip is not better than a high % autosurf scam site

Oh happy day sagt:

under the line, both sections with high % are scam, not more and not less

Oh happy day sagt:

from both sections, the webmasters have no clue from the capital market, they believe it is something to eat or so

Oh happy day sagt:

but they never earned a single buck there, they prefer to take the members money and this can't work

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

BTW i make some % to pay members

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i sell ads and etc

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

and all this money go to pay members

Oh happy day sagt:

yes sure but it will never be more than max 10% of your profit and the rest comes from the members

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

yes

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but what you prefer honest ponzi or ponzi whis dishonest admin like admigosurf, monkey-surf and etc?

Oh happy day sagt:

well I prefer nothing from this, I prefer a business that is stable with real income streams, not more and not less and this will never be a ponzi

Oh happy day sagt:

I do not gamble with ponzis

Oh happy day sagt:

the german law is not interested to know if you are a honest admin or not, fact is, it is illegal to run such a site and you go into jail when you fail with the reason of investment fraud

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

if i will put usa to whois info its will be faked to but no one will search you

Oh happy day sagt:

well too late, there are too much screenshots from the whois info and it is not really hard to track it for authorities

Oh happy day sagt:

I am sure it was a mistake to start the site

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

you want go to police?

Oh happy day sagt:

no I will not but believe me, after you will fail, your members will file some legal ection against you and than you have a problem here in germany

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i will try online long time!

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

stay

Oh happy day sagt:

es spielt keine Rolle, wie lang Du es packen wirst, nachdem Du gescheitert bist, wirst Du vor dem Gesetz nichts zu lachen haben

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

sorry i dont know german

Oh happy day sagt:

you are from germany but you speak no german ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i am at germany ~2 weeks

Oh happy day sagt:

I think you will be not really long here in germany after you will brake our law, the authorities are fast to kick people out they brake our law

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i will back to USA ?

Oh happy day sagt:

btw, are you a registered company here in germany ? If not, a further mistake, you must be a registered company to run a business

Oh happy day sagt:

of course, they will kick you out when yu brake the law

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

what i must do to stay at germany?

Oh happy day sagt:

well run a honest and registered business in germany and no ponzi and all is okay

Oh happy day sagt:

I am away now

Oh happy day sagt:

bye

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but what i can do now?

Taigi jei išsiimsit pinigus atgal dėt nepatariu :D

Oh happy day sagt:  

es spielt keine Rolle, wie lang Du es packen wirst, nachdem Du gescheitert bist, wirst Du vor dem Gesetz nichts zu lachen haben  

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:  

sorry i dont know german  

Oh happy day sagt:  

you are from germany but you speak no german ?

:):D bl

gavo ragus adminas :)

Oh happy day sagt:  

es spielt keine Rolle, wie lang Du es packen wirst, nachdem Du gescheitert bist, wirst Du vor dem Gesetz nichts zu lachen haben  

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:  

sorry i dont know german  

Oh happy day sagt:  

you are from germany but you speak no german ?

 

:):D bl

Aha čia gerai. Jis norėjo iš šito išsivartyt:

Oh happy day sagt:

is it correct that you are from germany ?

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

yes

Oh happy day sagt:

than we can talk in german

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

but adress false

22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

i can't give my adrees cos my surf ponzi you must know it

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22DailyPro Support (ZeroGravity) sagt:

you must know this Becouse bad members can come to my home :) :)

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