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Man tai ne :rolleyes: Ka cia tas RIMTAI reiskia, juk zinai kaip y tokius postus reaguoja visi :rolleyes:

Sveiki,

 

po dar vieno coolerio Full house vs Full house FT kambary, tikrai susidomėjau kuo šis kambarys skiriasi nuo kitų. Čia noriu jūsų paklausti ar jum nepasitaiko labai daug coolerių ten?

Ne.

nes ten tikrai kortos nekrenta pagal matematiką. Jei žaidi HU, quadsus kam nors turėti yra mikroskopinė galimybė, o man taip atsitiko jau 2 kartus, du kartus pagavau straight flush, daug flush vs flush HU Sng.

Gali pagristi tai statistika is trackeriu? Poker Tracker ar Holdem Manager? Ir ne 100, 1000, o bent jau 50-100k handu. Cia tik labai bendrai apzvalgai, tikrai analizei reiketu milijonu - bet kol kas is tu, kurie megino su tais milijonais, niekam nepavyko rast nukrypimu nuo teorijos. Gal busi pirmas? :rolleyes:

Kaip manai, kodel FT populiariausias tarp casheriu? Kad kortos "keistai krenta"? :rolleyes:

todėl, kad ps 73 nelaimi tau 200k dol vs AA

Krc... Jei jau AA tai negali pralaimėti? Jei jau neturi kuo pagrįsti tai patylėk, nes dabar tie tavo argumentai be jokio pagrindimo :rolleyes:

Pralosti dideli pottai - dideles klaidos, mazi - mazos klaidos. Ne handu esme yra norint laimet pokeryje. O sugebejimu isnaudot savo oponentus. quote name='Pawel' date='2009-04-08 22:48' post='854818']

Sveiki,

po dar vieno coolerio Full house vs Full house FT kambary, tikrai susidomėjau kuo šis kambarys skiriasi nuo kitų. Čia noriu jūsų paklausti ar jum nepasitaiko labai daug coolerių ten? priimkit rimtai arba nerašykit, nes ten tikrai kortos nekrenta pagal matematiką. Jei žaidi HU, quadsus kam nors turėti yra mikroskopinė galimybė, o man taip atsitiko jau 2 kartus, du kartus pagavau straight flush, daug flush vs flush HU Sng. Taigi noriu paklaust ar sutapimas ar dar kas yra pastebėjęs, kad FT yra keistas kambarys?

RIMTAAI

ir čia ne dėl to, kad pralošiau parašiau. kartais ir suckoutinu savo vienu outu, tokių fokusų per pusę metų neturėjau ipokery kaip kad apturiu čia

Zaidziau gal jau 4-uose roomuose ir visur bad beat'u pasitaikydavo panasiai. Manau autorius pralosei pinigu, kad toks nervingas.

Ot vat paskutiniu metu man ipoker tinkle bad beatai darosi, sustumiam flop all ina ir pagauna savo 2-3 outus, arba preflope tarkim mano QQ pries 47s neatsilaiko ir ka? ipoker gal irgi kitoks nei visi?;D Tai gal visi pokerio tinklai kitokie nei pagal tave turetu but?

Jei jau taip nepasitiki internetiniu pokeriu, tai gal isvis jo nelost? Kiek sulosei HU S&G partiju? 4-5? (bent jau is tavo aprasymo suprantu tiek ir sulosiai mazdaug)

Sulosk koki 50-100 partiju ir garantuoju, kad kitaip sakysi.

Arba paprasciausiai gal tilta pasigaves esi, kurio momentu gali sauti belenkas i galva pokerio atzvilgiu (man taip buna). Buna dienos, kai eiti i pliusa praktiskai neimanoma, krenti su AA,KK dazniau nei kas antram hand'e, opp'ai gaudo draw'us, nors ir losi labai agressive ir taip pastoviai tokia banga. Jug ir profams buna tiltai savaitemis laiko, kai praktiskai beveik nieko nelaimi. Viskam reikia laiko

Bet kaltinti pokerio room'a tokiais dalykais, manau yra visiskas absurdas.

todėl, kad ps 73 nelaimi tau 200k dol vs AA

Jei nori, kad kas nors tavo zodzius vertintu rimtai - as tau sakau - pateik PokerTracker statistika, kiek % 73 laimejo pries AA PokerStars, ir kiek % Full Tilte.

As per menesi suzaidziu Full Tilte 25-35k handu. Nematau jokiu stebuklingu bytu, daugiau nei statistiskai priklauso.

todėl, kad ps 73 nelaimi tau 200k dol vs AA

cia tu pralosei 200k dol, kad toks nervingas? :rolleyes:

jeigu pokerio kambarys rigged - dziaukis, reiskias dabar po downswingo tau ijungs upswinga ir viskas atsistatys. tavo accountas lygiai taip pat 'uzriggintas' kaip ir kitu zaideju accountai, tad sekmes faktorius = 0. viskas dabar priklauso nuo igudziu! hooray for rigged online poker!

kiekwienas poker roomas turi sawo niuansu,bet wisur wienodai musa beatai :rolleyes:

Cia mano handas kaip pirma vieta laimejau 6$ turnyre hull tilte.

Full Tilt Poker Game #11352649134: Early Double - A (85137296), Table 58 - 30000/60000 Ante 7500 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:13:51 ET - 2009/03/26

Seat 1: salomiuxxx (1,373,516)

Seat 7: jesus978 (1,190,484)

salomiuxxx antes 7,500

jesus978 antes 7,500

jesus978 posts the small blind of 30,000

salomiuxxx posts the big blind of 60,000

The button is in seat #7

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to salomiuxxx [7d Ad]

jesus978 raises to 195,000

salomiuxxx calls 135,000

*** FLOP *** [2d Tc 7h]

salomiuxxx checks

jesus978 bets 360,000

salomiuxxx raises to 1,171,016, and is all in

jesus978 calls 627,984, and is all in

salomiuxxx shows [7d Ad]

jesus978 shows [Qc Ts]

Uncalled bet of 183,032 returned to salomiuxxx

*** TURN *** [2d Tc 7h] [Jd]

*** RIVER *** [2d Tc 7h Jd] [5d]

salomiuxxx shows a flush, Ace high

jesus978 shows a pair of Tens

salomiuxxx wins the pot (2,380,968) with a flush, Ace high

jesus978 stands up

salomiuxxx stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 2,380,968 | Rake 0

Board: [2d Tc 7h Jd 5d]

Seat 1: salomiuxxx (big blind) showed [7d Ad] and won (2,380,968) with a flush, Ace high

Seat 7: jesus978 (small blind) showed [Qc Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens

Vakar zaidziau 24$ MTT ten pat. Patekti ITM buvo be sansu, parodysiu kodel:

Full Tilt Poker Game #11576314961: $34,000 Guarantee (86773997), Table 84 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:33:48 ET - 2009/04/08

Seat 1: UrinaMess (1,015)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff (2,965)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 (4,105)

Seat 4: Jupidor (2,920)

Seat 5: S2meL (3,600)

Seat 6: isis-tiger (3,040), is sitting out

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK (980)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (2,560)

Seat 9: grufty (5,815)

salomiuxxx posts the small blind of 25

grufty posts the big blind of 50

The button is in seat #7

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to salomiuxxx [7d As]

UrinaMess folds

BeanzMcGriff folds

The Wheel 713 folds

Jupidor folds

S2meL calls 50

isis-tiger folds

ETERNAL DONK has 15 seconds left to act

ETERNAL DONK is sitting out

ETERNAL DONK has timed out

ETERNAL DONK folds

salomiuxxx has 15 seconds left to act

salomiuxxx calls 25

grufty checks

*** FLOP *** [5h 7c Ad]

ETERNAL DONK has returned

salomiuxxx checks

grufty checks

S2meL checks

*** TURN *** [5h 7c Ad] [8s]

salomiuxxx bets 100

grufty folds

S2meL calls 100

*** RIVER *** [5h 7c Ad 8s] [4c]

salomiuxxx checks

S2meL bets 200

salomiuxxx has 15 seconds left to act

salomiuxxx calls 200

*** SHOW DOWN ***

S2meL shows [6h 6c] a straight, Eight high

salomiuxxx mucks

S2meL wins the pot (750) with a straight, Eight high

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 750 | Rake 0

Board: [5h 7c Ad 8s 4c]

Seat 1: UrinaMess didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 4: Jupidor didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: S2meL showed [6h 6c] and won (750) with a straight, Eight high

Seat 6: isis-tiger didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (small blind) mucked [7d As] - two pair, Aces and Sevens

Seat 9: grufty (big blind) folded on the Turn

Full Tilt Poker Game #11576684983: $34,000 Guarantee (86773997), Table 84 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:59:49 ET - 2009/04/08

Seat 1: UrinaMess (905)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff (2,275)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 (3,620)

Seat 4: Jupidor (3,415)

Seat 5: S2meL (4,150)

Seat 6: isis-tiger (3,705)

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK (820)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (1,880)

Seat 9: grufty (6,230)

ETERNAL DONK posts the small blind of 40

salomiuxxx posts the big blind of 80

The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to salomiuxxx [As Tc]

grufty folds

UrinaMess folds

BeanzMcGriff folds

The Wheel 713 folds

Jupidor folds

S2meL folds

isis-tiger folds

ETERNAL DONK raises to 820, and is all in

salomiuxxx calls 740

ETERNAL DONK shows [4h 7h]

salomiuxxx shows [As Tc]

*** FLOP *** [9c Jd 7c]

*** TURN *** [9c Jd 7c] [2d]

*** RIVER *** [9c Jd 7c 2d] [3s]

ETERNAL DONK shows a pair of Sevens

salomiuxxx shows Ace Jack high

ETERNAL DONK wins the pot (1,640) with a pair of Sevens

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 1,640 | Rake 0

Board: [9c Jd 7c 2d 3s]

Seat 1: UrinaMess didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 4: Jupidor didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: S2meL didn't bet (folded)

Seat 6: isis-tiger (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK (small blind) showed [4h 7h] and won (1,640) with a pair of Sevens

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (big blind) showed [As Tc] and lost with Ace Jack high

Seat 9: grufty didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #11576645960: $34,000 Guarantee (86773997), Table 84 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:57:02 ET - 2009/04/08

Seat 1: UrinaMess (905)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff (2,275)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 (3,260)

Seat 4: Jupidor (3,455)

Seat 5: S2meL (3,910)

Seat 6: isis-tiger (3,705)

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK (900)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (2,120)

Seat 9: grufty (6,470)

Jupidor posts the small blind of 40

S2meL posts the big blind of 80

The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to salomiuxxx [Jc Js]

isis-tiger folds

ETERNAL DONK folds

salomiuxxx raises to 240

grufty folds

UrinaMess folds

BeanzMcGriff folds

The Wheel 713 has 15 seconds left to act

The Wheel 713 folds

Jupidor folds

S2meL calls 160

*** FLOP *** [Qd 5c Ah]

S2meL checks

salomiuxxx checks

*** TURN *** [Qd 5c Ah] [Ks]

S2meL checks

salomiuxxx checks

*** RIVER *** [Qd 5c Ah Ks] [4h]

S2meL checks

salomiuxxx checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***

salomiuxxx shows [Jc Js] a pair of Jacks

S2meL shows [Tc Kh] a pair of Kings

S2meL wins the pot (520) with a pair of Kings

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 520 | Rake 0

Board: [Qd 5c Ah Ks 4h]

Seat 1: UrinaMess didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 4: Jupidor (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 5: S2meL (big blind) showed [Tc Kh] and won (520) with a pair of Kings

Seat 6: isis-tiger didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: ETERNAL DONK didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx showed [Jc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks

Seat 9: grufty didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #11576897118: $34,000 Guarantee (86773997), Table 84 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:14:59 ET - 2009/04/08

Seat 1: UrinaMess (1,005)

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff (1,535)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 (3,865)

Seat 4: Jupidor (3,365)

Seat 5: S2meL (5,855)

Seat 6: isis-tiger (2,295)

Seat 7: namuhnI (2,850)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (830)

Seat 9: grufty (8,250)

grufty posts the small blind of 50

UrinaMess posts the big blind of 100

The button is in seat #8

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to salomiuxxx [Jd Jc]

BeanzMcGriff folds

The Wheel 713 calls 100

Jupidor folds

S2meL folds

isis-tiger folds

namuhnI folds

salomiuxxx raises to 830, and is all in

grufty folds

UrinaMess has 15 seconds left to act

UrinaMess folds

The Wheel 713 has 15 seconds left to act

The Wheel 713 calls 730

salomiuxxx shows [Jd Jc]

The Wheel 713 shows [Td Qd]

*** FLOP *** [Kd 3s 2s]

*** TURN *** [Kd 3s 2s] [Qc]

*** RIVER *** [Kd 3s 2s Qc] [4c]

salomiuxxx shows a pair of Jacks

The Wheel 713 shows a pair of Queens

The Wheel 713 wins the pot (1,810) with a pair of Queens

salomiuxxx stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 1,810 | Rake 0

Board: [Kd 3s 2s Qc 4c]

Seat 1: UrinaMess (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 2: BeanzMcGriff didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: The Wheel 713 showed [Td Qd] and won (1,810) with a pair of Queens

Seat 4: Jupidor didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: S2meL didn't bet (folded)

Seat 6: isis-tiger didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: namuhnI didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: salomiuxxx (button) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks

Seat 9: grufty (small blind) folded before the Flop

rigged!! shakes, nebezaisiu internete daugiau. o tiems, kurie turit situs irodymus, kad fulltiltas rigged - paduokit i teisma, atsiteiskit savo $ ir dar kompensacijos belekiek.

nu luxusas prajuokino :rolleyes: jei turi JJ, ant board dvi dideesnės kortos nei J ir opp vieną iš jų turi tai rigged? Tada visas pokeris rigged.

rimta tema.

yeah, it's hard to deal with bad beats!

Nu n**** RIGGED !!! Daugiau nelošk internetinio pokerio Pawel...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($0.79)

SB ($0.49)

BB ($0.45)

Hero (UTG) ($0.92)

MP ($2.43)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif

Hero bets $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.06, SB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.42) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)

SB checks, BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.72, 1 fold, BB calls $0.21 (All-In)

Turn: ($1.04) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1.04) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $1.04 | Rake: $0.06

Results:

BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).

Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).

Outcome: BB won $0.49, Hero won $0.49

krc, zaist tikrai neismoksi su lunatikais 2NL kacialindamas.

krc, zaist tikrai neismoksi su lunatikais 2NL kacialindamas.

Taip, bet pradet nuo kazko tai reikia, neisi gi i NL50 iskart :)

krc, zaist tikrai neismoksi su lunatikais 2NL kacialindamas.

:) o nuejes iskart i high limits irgi neismoksi.

:) o nuejes iskart i high limits irgi neismoksi.

as apie high limitus nesneku, asmeniskai nuo 10NL pradejau. nu nz, kaska suprantant ir zaidziant 2NL manau geleziniu nervu reikia.

Na keistas room tas fulltilt, žaidžiu ten apie mėnesį ir juokingiausia, kad kasdien pasitaiko bent po 15 atvejų kai oponentai pagaudami river laimi. Be galo daug atvejų tokių įvyko per mėnesį ir ne tik man, kadangi žaidžiu nemažai SNG tai ir kai kiti all in sustumia dažniausiai hando baigti riveris nulemia visiškai priešinga kryptimi. Na įdomus tas fulltilt pokerio kambarys, gal tiesiog tokia fazė užėjo :).

pasitaiko bent po 15 atvejų kai oponentai pagaudami river laimi

kad ant river tai bamba žmonės. O jei būtų ant turn viskas tai visiem būtų gerai :) nors tikimybė, kad ant river vos vos didesnė nei kad ant turn.

krc, zaist tikrai neismoksi su lunatikais 2NL kacialindamas.

as pvz 2NL nekacialinu.. :) :)